In the Matter of
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APPLICATION PURSUANT TO SECTION 9(c) OF THE INVESTMENT COMPANY ACT OF 1940 FOR TEMPORARY AND PERMANENT ORDERS EXEMPTING APPLICANTS FROM THE PROVISIONS OF SECTION 9(a) OF SUCH ACT
File No. ___-_______
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Deutsche Bank AG
Taunusanlage 12
60325 Frankfurt am Main, Germany
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Deutsche Investment Management Americas Inc.
345 Park Avenue
New York, NY 10154
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Deutsche Asset & Wealth Management International GmbH
Mainzer Landstrasse 178-190
60327 Frankfurt am Main, Germany
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Deutsche Investments Australia Limited
Deutsche Bank Place, Level 16
CNR Hunter and Phillip Streets
Sydney, NSW 2000
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RREEF America L.L.C.
222 South Riverside Plaza
Chicago, IL 60606
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Deutsche Alternative Asset Management (Global) Limited
Winchester House
1 Great Winchester Street
London, United Kingdom EC2N 2DB
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DBX Advisors LLC
345 Park Avenue
New York, NY 10154
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DBX Strategic Advisors LLC
345 Park Avenue
New York, NY 10154
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DeAWM Distributors, Inc.
222 South Riverside Plaza
Chicago, IL 60606
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Harvest Global Investments Limited
31/F One Exchange Square
8 Connaught Place
Central, Hong Kong
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DB Group Services (UK) Ltd.
23 Great Winchester Street
London, EC2P 2AX
United Kingdom
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I. | Introduction and Summary of Application |
1 | None of Applicants acts as investment adviser, depositor or principal underwriter to investment companies that have elected to be treated as business development companies under the Act, registered unit investment trusts or registered face-amount certificate companies. |
II. | Background |
A. | Applicants |
2 | Covered Persons may, if the Orders are granted, in the future act in any of the capacities contemplated by Section 9(a) of the Act subject to the applicable terms and conditions of the Orders. |
B. | The Information, the Plea Agreement, and the Judgment |
3 | Information, United States v. DB Group Services (UK) Ltd., No. 3:15-cr-62 (D. Conn. Apr. 23, 2015). |
III. | Application of Section 9 of the Act |
4 | Counsel for the Settling Firm has confirmed that the Settling Firm did not enter into any interest rate derivatives trade with a Fund or Open-End Fund. |
IV. | Statement in Support of Application |
A. | Limited Scope of the Misconduct |
5 | Cf. Applications for Relief from Disqualification, Investment Company Act Release No. 8689 (Feb. 26, 1975). |
B. | Hardships on the Funds and Their Shareholders |
6 | Investment Trusts and Investment Companies: Hearings on S. 3580 Before the Subcomm. on Securities and Exchange of the Senate Comm. on Banking and Currency, 76th Cong., 3d Sess. 874 (1940) (statement of Judge Healy). |
C. | Adverse Effect on Fund Servicing Applicants |
D. | Absence of Any Connection Between the Misconduct and Applicants’ Fund Service Activities |
E. | No Involvement of Applicants’ Personnel |
7 | In the course of a lengthy investigation, counsel for the Settling Firm reviewed the employment history of every employee involved in the Conduct and has determined that none were employed by the Fund Servicing Applicants. |
8 | Counsel’s review, noted in footnote 7, has further determined that none of the employees involved in the Conduct had any involvement in Fund Servicing Activities. |
F. | Remedial Actions to Address the Misconduct |
1. | Prior Remedial Actions |
9 | As used in this section, “LIBOR” refers to the benchmarks for all currencies for which Deutsche Bank AG is a panel member. |
2. | Prospective Remedial Undertakings |
G. | Actions Taken with Respect to the Funds |
H. | Applicants’ Prior Section 9(c) Orders |
10 | Bankers Trust Company (Temporary Order) IC-23737; 812-11532 (March 12, 1999); Bankers Trust Company, et al. (Notice of Application) IC-23817 (April 29 1999); Bankers Trust Company, et al. (Extension of Temporary Order and Notice of Application) IC-23828 (May 7, 1999); Bankers Trust Company, et al. (Order Extending Temporary Exemption) IC-24125 (November 4, 1999); Bankers Trust Company, et al. (Order Extending Temporary Exemption) IC-24333 (March 8, 2000); Bankers Trust Company, et al. (Permanent Order) IC-24554 (July 10, 2000). |
11 | Deutsche Investment Management Americas, Inc., et al. (Notice of Application and Temporary Order) IC-26620; 812-13124 (September 24, 2004); Deutsche Investment Management Americas, Inc. et al. (Permanent Order) IC-27496 (September 25, 2006). |
12 | Deutsche Bank Securities Inc., et al. (Notice of Application and Temporary Order), IC-28763; 812-13664 (June 9, 2009); Deutsche Bank Securities Inc., et al. (Permanent Order) IC-28811 (July 7, 2009). |
I. | Applicants’ Conditions |
1. | Any temporary exemption granted pursuant to the Application shall be without prejudice to, and shall not limit the Commission’s rights in any manner with respect to, any Commission investigation of, or administrative proceedings involving or against, Covered Persons, including, without limitation, the consideration by the Commission of a permanent exemption from Section 9(a) of the Act requested pursuant to the Application or the revocation or removal of any temporary exemptions granted under the Act in connection with the Application. |
2. | Except as set out in the last paragraph of Section IV.E of the Application, neither the Applicants nor any of the other Covered Persons will employ any of the current or former employees of the Settling Firm or any Covered Person who previously has been or who subsequently may be identified by the Settling Firm, Deutsche Bank AG, or any U.S. or non-U.S. regulatory or enforcement agency as having been responsible for the Conduct, without first making a further application to the Commission pursuant to Section 9(c). |
3. | Each Applicant and Covered Person will adopt and implement policies and procedures reasonably designed to ensure that it will comply with the terms and conditions of the Orders within 60 days of the date of the Permanent Order or, with respect to condition 4, such later date as may be contemplated by the Plea Agreement, the Deferred Prosecution Agreement, the CFTC Order, the FCA Final Notice, and the DFS Order. |
4. | The Settling Firm will comply in all material respects with the material terms and conditions of the Plea Agreement, and Deutsche Bank AG will comply in all material respects with the material terms and undertakings of the Deferred Prosecution Agreement, the CFTC Order, the FCA Final Notice, and the DFS Order. |
5. | Applicants will provide written notification to the Chief Counsel of the Commission’s Division of Investment Management with a copy to the Chief Counsel of the Commission’s Division of Enforcement of a material violation of the terms and conditions of the Orders within 30 days of discovery of the material violation. |
J. | Conclusion |
V. | Authorization |
DEUTSCHE BANK AG
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By:
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/s/ Thomas Altenbach | |
Name: |
Dr. Thomas Altenbach
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Title: |
Associate General Counsel
Litigation/Regulatory Enforcement
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By:
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/s/ Robert Müller | |
Name: |
Dr. Robert Müller
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Title: |
Senior Counsel
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DEUTSCHE INVESTMENT MANAGEMENT
AMERICAS INC.
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By:
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/s/ Joseph Sarbinowski | |
Name: | Joseph Sarbinowski | ||
Title: |
President and Chief Executive Officer
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By:
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/s/ Cynthia P. Nestle | |
Name: |
Cynthia P. Nestle
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Title: | Managing Director | ||
DEUTSCHE ASSET & WEALTH MANAGEMENT
INTERNATIONAL GmbH
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By:
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/s/ Stephan Scholl | |
Name: | Stephan Scholl | ||
Title: |
Chief Operating Officer / Member of the
board of Managing Directors
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By:
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/s/ Georg Schuh | |
Name: | Georg Schuh | ||
Title: |
Chief Investment Officer / Member of the
board of Managing Directors
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DEUTSCHE INVESTMENTS AUSTRALIA LIMITED
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By:
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/s/ David Irving | |
Name: | David Irving | ||
Title: |
Director
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By:
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/s/ Christopher Robinson | |
Name: | Christopher Robinson | ||
Title: |
Director
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RREEF AMERICA L.L.C.
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By:
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/s/ Pierre Cherki | |
Name: | Pierre Cherki | ||
Title: |
Manager
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By:
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/s/ Michael Luciano | |
Name: | Michael Luciano | ||
Title: |
Manager
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DEUTSCHE ALTERNATIVE ASSET
MANAGEMENT (GLOBAL) LIMITED
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By:
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/s/ Stephen Shaw | |
Name: | Stephen Shaw | ||
Title: |
Managing Director, UK Regional Control Officer
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By:
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/s/ Mark William Bolton | |
Name: | Mark William Bolton | ||
Title: |
Managing Director, Chief Executive
Officer
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DBX ADVISORS LLC
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By:
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/s/ Fiona Bassett | |
Name: | Fiona Bassett | ||
Title: |
Chief Executive Officer, Chief Investment
Officer, and Director
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By:
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/s/ Frank Gecsedi | |
Name: | Frank Gecsedi | ||
Title: |
Chief Compliance Officer
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DBX STRATEGIC ADVISORS LLC
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By:
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/s/ Fiona Bassett | |
Name: | Fiona Bassett | ||
Title: |
Chief Executive Officer, Chief Investment
Officer, and Director
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By:
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/s/ Frank Gecsedi | |
Name: | Frank Gecsedi | ||
Title: |
Chief Compliance Officer
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DeAWM DISTRIBUTORS, INC.
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By:
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/s/ Robert Kendall | |
Name: | Robert Kendall | ||
Title: |
Director & President/CEO
and Chairman of the Board |
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By:
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/s/ Brian Binder | |
Name: | Brian Binder | ||
Title: |
Managing Director
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HARVEST GLOBAL INVESTMENTS LIMITED
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By:
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/s/ Peng Wah Choy | |
Name: | Peng Wah Choy | ||
Title: |
Chief Executive Officer
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DB GROUP SERVICES (UK) LTD.
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By:
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/s/ David Hards | |
Name: |
David Hards
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Title: | Director | ||
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By:
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/s/ Joanne Bagshaw | |
Name: |
Joanne Bagshaw
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Title: |
Joint Company Secretary
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DEUTSCHE BANK AG
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By:
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/s/ Christof von Dryander | |
Name: | Christof von Dryander | ||
Title: |
Co-Deputy General Counsel
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DEUTSCHE INVESTMENT MANAGEMENT
AMERICAS INC.
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By:
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/s/ Anjie LaRocca | |
Name: | Anjie LaRocca | ||
Title: |
Assistant Secretary
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DEUTSCHE ASSET & WEALTH MANAGEMENT
INTERNATIONAL GmbH
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By:
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/s/ Ulrich Keipert | |
Name: | Ulrich Keipert | ||
Title: |
Director /
COO of Global Client Group EMEA
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DEUTSCHE INVESTMENTS AUSTRALIA LIMITED
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By:
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/s/ Tracy Jane Unwin | |
Name: | Tracy Jane Unwin | ||
Title: |
Company Secretary
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RREEF AMERICA L.L.C.
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By:
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/s/ Portia Guerin | |
Name: | Portia Guerin | ||
Title: |
Secretary
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DEUTSCHE ALTERNATIVE ASSET
MANAGEMENT (GLOBAL) LIMITED
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By:
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/s/ Adam Rutherford | |
Name: | Adam Rutherford | ||
Title: |
Company Secretary
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DBX ADVISORS LLC
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By:
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/s/ Alex Depetris | |
Name: | Alex Depetris | ||
Title: |
Chief Operating Officer, Secretary, and
Director
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DBX STRATEGIC ADVISORS LLC
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By:
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/s/ Alex Depetris | |
Name: | Alex Depetris | ||
Title: |
Chief Operating Officer, Secretary, and
Director
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DeAWM DISTRIBUTORS, INC.
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By:
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/s/ Anjie LaRocca | |
Name: | Anjie LaRocca | ||
Title: |
Assistant Secretary
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HARVEST GLOBAL INVESTMENTS LIMITED
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By:
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/s/ David Tong | |
Name: | David Tong | ||
Title: |
Chief Compliance Officer
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DB GROUP SERVICES (UK) LTD.
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By:
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/s/ Andrew Bartlett | |
Name: |
Andrew Bartlett
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Title: |
Joint Company Secretary
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CRIMINAL NO. ____________
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UNITED STATES OF AMERICA,
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Plaintiff,
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DB GROUP SERVICES UK LIMITED,
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Defendant.
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(1) | to plead guilty as set forth in this Agreement; |
(2) | to abide by all sentencing stipulations contained in this Agreement; |
(3) | to appear, through its duly appointed representatives, as ordered for all court appearances, and obey any other court order in this matter; |
(4) | to commit no further federal crimes; |
(5) | to be truthful at all times with the Court; |
(6) | to pay the applicable fine and special assessment; and |
(7) | to work with its parent corporation, Deutsche Bank AG (“Deutsche Bank”), in fulfilling the obligations described in the undertakings given by Deutsche Bank in connection with resolving investigations by the Department of Justice, the U.S. Commodity Futures Trading Commission (“CFTC”) (attached to this Agreement as Exhibit 2) and the U.K. Financial Conduct Authority (“FCA”). |
a. | DBGS agrees that any applicable statute of limitations is tolled between the date of DBGS’s signing of this Agreement and the discovery by the Department of any breach by DBGS plus one year; and |
b. | DBGS gives up all defenses based on the statute of limitations (as described in Paragraph 14), any claim of pre-indictment delay, venue, or any speedy trial claim with respect to any such prosecution or action, except to the extent that such defenses existed as of the date of the signing of this Agreement. |
Date: 4/23/15
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/s/ Steven F. Reich |
Steven F. Reich | |||
General Counsel – Americas Deutsche Bank AG |
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Date: 4/23/15
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/s/ Robert Finzi | ||
Robert Finzi, Esq. | |||
Andrew Finch, Esq. | |||
Theodore V. Wells, Jr., Esq. | |||
Paul, Weiss, Rifkind, Wharton & Garrison LLP
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ANDREW WEISSMANN
Chief, Fraud Section Benjamin D. Singer Deputy Chief, Fraud Section Criminal Division United States Department of Justice |
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Date: 4/23/15
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By: | /s/ Jennifer L. Saulino | |
Jennifer L. Saulino | |||
Assistant Chief, Fraud Section
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Date: 4/23/15
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By: | /s/ Alison L. Anderson | |
Alison L. Anderson | |||
Trial Attorney, Fraud Section
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JEFFREY D. MARTINO
Chief, New York Field Office Antitrust Division United States Department of Justice |
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Date: 4/23/15
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By: | /s/ Richard A. Powers | |
Richard A. Powers | |||
Trial Attorney, Antitrust Division
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By: | /s/ Roberto Finzi | ||
Roberto Finzi, Esq. | |||
Paul, Weiss, Rifkind, Wharton & Garrison LLP
Counsel for DBGS |
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By: | /s/ Andrew C. Finch | ||
Andrew C. Finch, Esq. | |||
Paul, Weiss, Rifkind, Wharton & Garrison LLP
Counsel for DBGS |
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By: | /s/ Theodore V. Wells, Jr. / ACF | ||
Theodore V. Wells, Jr., Esq. | |||
Paul, Weiss, Rifkind, Wharton & Garrison LLP
Counsel for DBGS |
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DB Group Services UK Limited
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By: | /s/ Steven F. Reich | ||
Steven F. Reich, Esq. | |||
General Counsel – Americas
Deutsche Bank AG |
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(a) | the discussions between the Company, through its legal counsel, and the United States Department of Justice, Criminal Division, Fraud Section, and the Antitrust Division (together, the DOJ) regarding its investigation into potential criminal violations related to the London Interbank Offered Rate (LIBOR) and the Euro Interbank Offered Rate (EURIBOR) (the LIBOR Investigation); |
(b) | a pack of settlement documents, pursuant to which the Company and Deutsche Bank AG (DBAG) proposed to settle the LIBOR Investigation, including: |
(i) | a draft Plea Agreement, with appendices, between the Company and the DOJ (the Draft Plea Agreement); |
(ii) | as an appendix to the Draft Plea Agreement, a draft statement of facts relating to the involvement of the Company’s employees in misconduct in relation to the LIBOR and EURIBOR benchmarks; and |
(iii) | a draft Information expected to be filed in the U.S. District Court for the District of Connecticut, charging the Company with one count of wire fraud, in violation of Title 18, United States Code, Section 1343. |
(c) | a draft written special resolution to be passed by the Company’s sole shareholder (the Written Shareholder Resolution) containing a direction in relation to the matters referred to in sub-paragraphs (a) and (b) above; |
(d) | the terms of a proposed resolution of the board of DBAG (the DBAG Resolution) to the effect that DBAG be authorised to sign and execute any documents and take all other steps that are necessary or deemed useful to ensure and facilitate, to the extent legally possible, the entering of a guilty plea in the U.S. vis-à-vis the DOJ by the Company; and |
(e) | the advice to the Board from its legal counsel regarding the terms of the Draft Plea Agreement, as well as advice regarding the waiver of rights and other consequences of signing the Draft Plea Agreement. |
1. | It was in the best commercial interests of the Company and would promote the success of the Company for the benefit of its members as a whole, having regard to the factors set out in section |
172 of the Companies Act 2006 and other factors, for the Company to enter into the Draft Plea Agreement and to enter into the guilty plea referred to therein (the Guilty Plea). |
2. | Any director of the Company (a Director), Christian Sewing, Richard Walker, Simon Dodds, Christof von Dryander, Kieran Garvey, Maureen Lewis and Gayathri Kamalanathan and Roberto Finzi, Andrew C. Finch and Theodore V. Wells, Jr. of the U.S. law firm Paul, Weiss, Rifkind, Wharton & Garrison LLP, acting individually or jointly, be authorised on behalf of the Company to: |
(a) | agree any amendment to the Draft Plea Agreement prior to execution provided that the plea agreement to be entered into by the Company be substantially in the same form and substance as the Draft Plea Agreement; |
(b) | agree the terms of, and sign on behalf of the Company, any related document; and |
(c) | take any and all actions as may be necessary or appropriate, and to approve the forms, terms and provisions of any agreement or other documents as may be necessary or appropriate, to carry out or give effect to the purpose and intent of these Resolutions (including signing and delivering any such agreement or document on behalf of the Company). |
3. | The execution of any relevant document as a deed in relation to these Resolutions be authorised and that this be effected by that document being signed by any Director in the presence of a witness or by any two Directors or by any one Director and either of the joint company secretaries of the Company, in each case on behalf of the Company. |
4. | Christian Sewing, Richard Walker, Simon Dodds, Christof von Dryander, Kieran Garvey, Maureen Lewis and Gayathri Kamalanathan and Roberto Finzi, Andrew C. Finch and Theodore V. Wells, Jr. of the U.S. law firm Paul, Weiss, Rifkind, Wharton & Garrison LLP, or any delegate who he/she may select, acting individually or jointly, be authorised: |
(a) | to execute the Draft Plea Agreement on behalf of the Company with any such amendments as may have been approved in accordance with these Resolutions provided that the plea agreement executed on behalf of the Company be substantially in the same form and substance as the Draft Plea Agreement; |
(b) | to act and speak on behalf of the Company in any proceeding, or as otherwise necessary, for the purpose of executing the Draft Plea Agreement (with any amendments as referred to above), including the entry of the Guilty Plea on behalf of the Company; and |
(c) | to take such further action as appears to him/her necessary or desirable to carry into effect the intent and purpose of these Resolutions. |
5. | All of the actions of the Directors and any individuals authorised to act on behalf of the Company by the above Resolutions, which actions would have been within the scope of and authorised by the above Resolutions except that such actions were taken prior to the passing of such Resolutions, be severally ratified, confirmed, approved and adopted as actions on behalf of the Company; |
6. | Any Director and Joanne Bagshaw and Andrew Bartlett, both joint company secretaries of the Company, who was in attendance at the Board meeting at which these Resolutions were passed, be individually authorised to certify a copy of these Resolutions. |
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Christian Sewing, Richard Walker, Simon Dodds, Christof von Dryander, Kieran Garvey, Maureen Lewis and Gayathri Kamalanathan and Roberto Finzi, Andrew C. Finch and Theodore V. Wells, Jr.
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of the U.S. law firm Paul, Weiss, Rifkind, Wharton & Garrison LLP be individually authorised to provide to the DOJ a certified copy of these Resolutions. |
8. | Each joint company secretary of the Company be individually authorised to file with the Registrar of Companies a record of the Written Shareholder Resolution and the relevant forms. |
/s/ Joanne Bagshaw
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Joint Company Secretary
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A. | LIBOR and EURIBOR |
B. | Interest Rate Swaps |
C. | Forward Rate Agreements |
D. | DB and DBGS |
A. | USD LIBOR |
Submitter-1: | if you need something in particular in the libors i.e. you have an interest in a high or a low fix let me know and there’s a high chance i’ll be able to go in a different level. Just give me a shout the day before |
Trader-8: | Thanks – our CP guys have been looking for it a bit higher – not a big deal. |
Manager-1: | libors any requests? |
Trader-1: | HIGH FREES, LOW 1MUNF |
Manager-1: | what levels? |
Trader-1: | can we have a high 6mth libor today pls gezzer? |
Submitter-2: | sure dude, where wld you like it mate ? |
Trader-1: | think it shud be 095? |
Submitter-2: | cool, was going 9, so 9.5 it is |
Trader-1: | super – don’t get that level of flexibility when [Manager-1] is in the chair fyg! |
B. | EURIBOR |
Trader-10: | [Manager-5] pls |
Submitter-4: | Hihi he is on holiday, may I help |
Trader-10: |
Hi [Submitter-4], [Trader-10] here.. could we pls ask you to put low 1m fixing today please
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Submitter-4: | hahahahh sure, I have just written [Trader-3] a bbg asking whether u have any preferences for the fixings. We have only small xposure there so sure we can put in a 60 fix in the 1m |
Trader-10: | thx vmuch [Submitter-4] we need evry penny we can get atm the ee it’s a bit tough to make money |
Trader-10: | Good morning [Submitter-4], [Trader-10] here.. could we please ask you to put in low 1m fixing pls |
Submitter-4: | Difficlt, think [Senior Manager-6] wnarts it [] on the high side |
Trader-10: | Oh no!! But ladies first no ;))? |
Submitter-4: | First come first serve. |
Trader-10: | Exctly.. And we have been begging you for last two month!! |
Submitter-4: | But u dont sign my bonus right? |
Trader-10: | Hahah hmmm.. Unfortunatly not… |
C. | Yen LIBOR |
a) | internal requests within DB by derivatives traders for favorable Yen LIBOR submissions; and |
b) | communications with a derivatives traders at another Contributor Panel bank. |
1) | Manipulation within DB of its Yen LIBOR Submissions |
Trader-11: | but going to put high libors today |
Hayes: | sure i think you guys are top in 1m anyway |
Trader-11: | I am mate need it high! |
2) | Interbank Manipulation |
Trader-11: | `Um…it was not…not that big movement in the cash and [UBS] is manipulating it at the moment to get it very low. |
Unknown Caller (UC): | You are telling me that the [UBS] is manipulating right? |
Trader-11: | Yeah. I mean yesterday [Hayes] came to me, ok, and said “hello mate,” “hello,” “I’ve got a big reset, that was yesterday, and about 750, uh…75 million yen dv01, can you put it low?” |
Trader-11: | And [Hayes] said, ‘can you put it low?’ I said, ‘yeah, ok.’ At the end…at the end of the day, [laughter] it went down [unintelligble] bps when I think cash is better bid. |
UC: | Fucking hell. |
Trader-11: | And he’s doing that with the 16 banks [laughter]. |
UC: | That means [UBS] is asking 16 banks to…to…to ask you guys to put it high. |
Trader-11: | Maybe not…not 16 banks, but you know, if he knows eight banks, that’s enough. |
Trader-11: | Yeah this is why the LIBOR came off yesterday. For no other reason. |
Trader-11: | Yeah, yeah, I know, but…because it was manipulated by Hayes |
UC: | Fucking hell, manipulating, Wow! |
UC: | Is that...is that legal or illegal? |
Trader-11: | No, that’s illegal. No, that’s illegal…. |
Hayes: | if you cld hold your 6m fix till the eom wld be massive help |
Trader-11: | I put higher today |
Hayes: | thx |
Trader-11: | suist me too |
D. | CHF LIBOR |
Trader-11: | Hello I trade CHF derivatives in London what are you putting for libors today please? |
Submitter-9: |
Hi mate welcome in one of the most interesting currency market heard
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Submitter-9: | hi gd morning mate…in case it helps u my libor forecast: 1m 2.63 2m 2.70 3m 2.82 6m 2.98 9m 3.10 12m 3.235 |
Trader-11: | ok many thanks can you put a high 3m please? |
Submitter-9: | sure 83? |
Trader-11: | many thanks really need low 1 month today… just for tpday… |
Submitter-9: | wud do 61 if you agree…problem is not to quote too low to be deleted in the calculation process…?? |
Trader-11: | yes it is perfect was paying a lot of 1m today glad it is out of the way am short 3m but want to rec 3s now |
Trader-11: | where do you see 1m libor today? |
Submitter-9: | gd question lower again I will go again for 2.50 with a fix at 2.60-62 |
Trader-11: | cam you put a very low 1 month please |
Submitter-9: | sure wnatever suits u but to be honest lower than 2.50 wud mean we r off the calculation anyway so having no effect on the fix |
Trader-11: | fine if we are off the calculation it is always better than we are in To get libor your way you always need to be off teh calculation |
Submitter-9: | to show the direction i totally agree….but in case u have a refix i wud say its better to be in the calc on the low side |
Trader-11: | no we had a chat with [Trader-3] about that and we do not think so Maybe he is wrong!!! If you are un menas you increase the libor no? |
Submitter-9: | it depends what u expect all the other to quote….on the day of ur refix its better to be the lowest in the calc to bring libor down, no? |
Trader-11: | good |
Submitter-9: | will go 38 in thw 1m fixing |
Trader-11: | Thank you |
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GBP LIBOR
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